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Which is better?

Discussion in 'Beginner Forum' started by Calamity Velvet, Feb 27, 2018.

  1. Calamity Velvet

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    Keyboard, or Xbot controller. And why.
     
  2. qspec

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    Which ever you feel more comfortable on. There are great players that use every input method: stick, hitbox, controller, keyboard and piano.

    Seriously, this is 100% preference.
     
  3. Calamity Velvet

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    What do you mean by 'hitbox'?
     
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  5. Snivian Moon

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    I just want to say that I absolutely love the Hitbox controller. It's a fantastic piece of hardware! I've been playing fighting games off and on for years on a Hitbox, and now I can't really go back to stick.

    It allows me to input motions with much more precision than I'm able with a stick, because I can't over-input. Quarter and half-circles are easy to execute - Some particular SNK motions I really struggled with on a stick, because I wound up in the air so much, accidentally jumping (Notably, :6:,:4:,:1:,:2:,:3:,:6::+::atk:, or :2:,:1:,:4:,:1:,:2:,:3:,:6::+::atk:).

    It's not necessarily the absolute best, as I've seen people using stick WAY better than I can use a hitbox. Plus, double jump canceling is a bit wonky to me on a hitbox. Nevertheless, I really like it a lot.
     
  6. qspec

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    The best part of the hitbox to me is how easy it makes things like KBD in Tekken or IAD in all games. My IAD is reasonably solid, but even trying it out on the keyboard, it feels half like cheating.

    That said, other motions I find more uncomfortable than using the stick. But like I said, it is ultimately all preference and comfort.
     
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    I personally have a generic game pad that resembles a playstation controller. I played playstation so much as a kid that it just feels right in my hands. Xboc controllers just feel weird to me, and I can't play on the keyboard for the life of me.

    Mine is far from the best controller out there, but it only costed me something like $8 on ebay, and it seems to work just fine.
    Although I often wonder if using an actual PS3 controller would work better? I'd have to figure out how to install it on my computer though, cus I heard you can't just plug-and-play a PS3 controller.
    Anybody know how to do that btw?
     
  8. BypenThynDragon

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    Come on everyone knows the only way to fight is with the DDR pad
     
  9. TwistedKestrel

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    I will say that as a mewling baby beginner, I started with a Xbox 360 controller then switched to a PS4 and noticed a huge difference. I have a Genesis-style USB controller buried in a box somewhere that I want to try as well
     
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    I have to say, with my hand hurting from playing too much, a DDR pad sounds quite tempting for a change. The combo trials at different speeds could be a nice workout routine...
     
  11. Pom d'or

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    That's interesting. I've never used an actual hitbox but I've always assumed the thumb would be :2:.

    Someday I'd like to try one. At the moment I'm using keyboard, with a button config that puts the keys at my fingertips like they'd be on a hitbox... it's sort of a poor man's hitbox. But I have :2: on the thumb (V, with W:4:, E:8:, and R:6:).
     
  12. qspec

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    If you wanted to try and map to something similar to a hitbox, set Space as your jump/up button. It makes more sense than it seems once you use it.
     
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    Cool. So then down is... the middle finger? I think I'll just get confused, but I'll give it a try.

    (Incidentally, the spacebar on my keyboard is a little fiddly, that's why I used V instead.)
     
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    Yeah, I found that, too. Tried the space = jump for a bit, but the space key is just so huuuuge and feels ... not as snappy as a letter key. I tried it with j, k, l as the other directions, and the hand position was pretty bad, too. Now I'm thinking j, i, o might have been more ergonomic. Or k, o, p plus the right Alt key, if that is even possible. Oh well, I'm back to i, j, k, l, though I'm painfully aware that my middle finger needs to do a lot of work. Still, it's way better for me than a game pad.
     
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    If you can, get a Ps4 Pad, they are the controller of choice for people who play fighting games and don't want a fightstick, I'd totally avoid the xbox controller because the dpad sucks and playing fighting games with the analog stick isn't that great.

    If you want to use a keyboard, make sure it's mechanical and set the keys so they feel comfortable, i'd recommend wasd for up-left-down-right and numpad 4 for low attack, numpad 5 for mid attack, numpad 2 for high attack and numpad 1 for magic attack, this way you can easily switch to a hitbox and keep the muscle memory for the combos (or even a fightstick, though with more difficulty considering the wasd > lever change)
     
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    That's not hitpad layout. The thumb controls the jump on hitpad (unless you rebind it).
     
  17. Batandy

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    Yeah my bad, in that case the keyboard layout would be asd + spacebar
     
  18. Pom d'or

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    Agreed. I wonder what use case Microsoft had in mind for that dpad. Like, what kind of games were they expecting that design to be good for?

    That's interesting. With that setup, are you using two fingers to cover the four attack buttons? Not criticizing, just curious. (If you're using four fingers with that layout it seems like they'd be all bunched up in a little square. I have numpad 456 for light-mid-heavy, each with its own finger, and then my thumb on numpad 0 for magic. But I'm no pro, and you might know better than I do.)
     
  19. Snivian Moon

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    I think Microsoft realized their d-pad was awful after a while. They released a 360 controller with a 'transforming' d-pad at one point, where you could twist the d-pad and put it in a 'not suck' mode. It was actually really great, and looked pretty slick too!

    Then they decided that wasn't a good idea and went back to the awful d-pads for the XBone. Which will perpetually confuse me.

    On another topic, has anyone ever tried a MixBox Arcade controller? I'm a pretty die-hard HitBox Arcade fan, but I'm curious if anyone's ever tried the MixBox and what their opinion of it might be.
     
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    Xbox controller, but only because it didn't require extra software to run with Steam, as opposed to a PS3 controller at the time.
     
  21. Stars

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    I first tried playing TFH on a keyboard, and I liked the feel of it, but without a proper gaming keyboard, it sometimes doesn't register all of my commands. In lieu of that, I've been sticking with a 360 controller. My only issue with a joystick is getting reliable diagonal inputs, but that's somewhat an issue with me the player, not just the controller.
     
  22. VendiMANS

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    I play with the xbox one controller, the dpad is pretty nice (and a 100 times better than the 360, boy I couldn't even play platformers with that)
    A friend of mine bought the game recently and said he couldn't play it with a keyboard so I wouldn't suggest that
     
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